There are a few things you can do to make bread that keeps moist for a little longer. Try starting with 20g less of water and see how you get on. Sign Up. Storage of a few weeks to a few months. I use the least as I can possibly get away with, and try to flick it across the table to cover as much surface as possible with a very fine amount. As long as you don't kill it (i.e. or when it has peaked and ripe after a feed ? You can find lots of recipes online for using discarded starter. Get those down and you are 80% to making great loaves. https://honestcooking.com/bread-beast-baking-sourdough-starter Her recipe can be found at: http://www.wildyeastblog.com/2007/07/08/my-new-favorite-sourdough/. Keep upping the moisture each time you make one. Do a search on the TFL site for "retarding" or referigerating" doughs and you will see that many of us referigerate our doughs to lengthen the fermentation times (either at bulk or proof or both) to develop more complex and flavorful breads. I’ll use it if it is in the recipe in the example of a focaccia or ciabatta, but in terms of affecting the strength and structure? How does that work and should that be something I need to be doing? Hi Jeff,  Gotta most respectfully disagree. The wetter the dough and the longer you stretch out the bread making process, the more moisture the flour will take on, and so your finished bread will retain it’s moisture for longer resulting in a longer shelf life. 09:50 Add the salt and knead. Not because it is bad, but because it is less active. I want to do it again. I fed the starter immediately after starting the loaf two nights ago. I find that often in a video it looks like my dough isn't sticky, people are often surprised in class about how sticky it actually is! Can I use freshly ground flour to feed my sourdough starter? Use your starter long after feeding and just before it peaks. When you're ready to bake with your starter, you'll need to take it out 2 days before baking and grow the starter with the following steps. Was chagrined to discover the primary culprit was simple overproofing - despite bulk and proof times as low as 1/4 (yeah one fourth!) You are going away on a short break and will return to baking once back. SD is a living "breathing" thing and I must agree - no substitute for experience (which we ALL are still getting!) And so, I would be inclined to work it out without the molasses, butter etc. Is your starter made out of wholemeal rye like mine? Only thing is a thick skin starts to form on the top - but it doesn't fall. Since its my first loaf :-) want to keep things as simple as possible. I suspect ambient temperature may play a signficant role,  in our differences, as I usually teach classes in the  cold Winter months and I am guessing that you are dealing with much warmer temperatures. Your bread's abilitiy to hold onto it's crunchy crust is down to how well your oven holds the steam during baking. Content posted by community members is their own. Should I try to increase this as my handling skills improve, to get to 310g? That is,  most would under proof their loaves due to impatience or worry that they were letting the process go on to long. When I am shaping the dough, I'll just dust with whatever I am using at the time, normally white. I’ve reduced the starter before and fermented it all day while I was out or overnight and it's come out more acidic. I maintain it at 100% hydration. Thank you once again. You are going away on a short break and will return to baking once back. YES you can, and it's delicious, I would add around 25g to a standard loaf as a starting poit and go from there depending on your taste! One thing worth a mention is your flour. 15g starter : 50:50 flour/water. Log in or register to post comments; Sourdoughsmitten. There is more information on how to know when your starter is ready to bake with here. Take 100g of your starter out of the pot and put in in a large bowl, put your scraping pot in the fridge for next time. If you do that though, you'll need to adjust the flour and water in the recipe to make up for the missing 75g of starter (ie 37.5 more water and 37.5 more flour in the final dough recipe). of SD bread comes from lactobacilli and acetic acids, which take hours (not minutes) to develop and, generally speaking, develop more fully the longer the fermentation process takes. Thanks Jessica T - will try give it a chance. Posted by: Stephanie B. August 24, 2017; 14205 views; 4 Comments; baking; bread; starter; sour dough; 4 Comments PieceOfLayerCake August 25, 2017 If I'm making bread, and my starter is active, I feed it that morning and in a couple hours at room temperature is usually enough. If you bake everyday and feed it everyday then won't be an issue. Write down what you do each time. In my own baking, I aim for a process from start to finish that takes 16 plus hours. 09:20 Prepare the ingredients. A healthy, mature starter should be bubbly and double in 8 hours. Does the type of yeast I use, fresh or dry, make the final bread taste any different? a total of 4 to 5 hours - not 1 1/2 hours!). When you feed up your starter you can let it puff up and stash it in the fridge to build acidity overnight to make dough in the morning, AND also I've found that if you use LESS starter in the loaf (say 25g) and let it ferment for AGES longer it develops flavour more slowly and more acidity too. If it is made of a flour that is NOT wholemeal, then that’ll make a difference too, your dough will be slacker. 1)  Everyone says "always use starter at the point it peaks" or soon before/after - say within 20-30 minutes or so of peaking - so it will have maximum leavening power. there is minimum rise at this point, then when it hits the oven BOOM! There is a much more satisfying and moreish flavour to a loaf made with fresh than one made with dry. One issue I have is if I try to slash the dough I do it just before I put it in the oven, i.e. But if you go over a week, you’ll need to feed your starter once or twice before using it again. To conclude - Since i do not want a sour flavor, should I use the starter after about 2-3 hours of feeding it ? Maybe. For instance, 50 grams starter… So don’t despair if you are starting with a small quantity. For now just change one thing, take the water down to a manageable level, and work your way up only when and if you feel comfortable! To ready your refrigerated starter for baking: Take the starter out of the fridge, discard all but 4 ounces (1/2 cup), and feed it as usual. ", Bread Tip 72 - The Room Temperature Water Rule, and The EXCEPTION. Fresh yeast has real character and it may sound silly, but I feel like the resulting bread tastes more like bread! 4)  In my search for truly sour SD (which I love as much as I do a good sweet SD bread) I have learned that using old starter - sometimes even a day or two AFTER it has peaked (and left at room temp for that day or two!) That makes a crust that stays put! You will be surprised with the difference it makes! I get some good results with sourdough and yeasted loaves but often the crust, which I can hear crack as it cools, goes soft. Adding oil to a recipe will affect the final bread, but unless you are using a LOT of oil then I don’t think it will. I watch your videos every time I need to get ready to make a sourdough boule but after every time it proofs and expands nicely in the banneton, when it comes to placing on the parchment it spreads and doesn't rise in the dutch oven. Feed the 3 oz of starter with 3 oz of all purpose flour and 3 oz of water. One day bake schedule Friday. More Videos: 2020 Dec 17, 2020 Bread Tip 150: Incorporating Fruit into Bread Dough in REAL TIME; Dec 10, 2020 Bread Tip 149: Do you need to SOAK dry fruit for BREAD? How should I have accounted for the granola? 200g flour + 200 grams water + 140 grams starter = 540 grams of starter. One thing is i have never seen my starter fall as of yet. Personally I prefer the process with a wetter dough. Then as it cools over time, the second rise will seem slow. 20:00 Feed starter . I am yet to be tested in a blind taster but I feel like I could tell the difference easily. If the mother starter is not strong, the bread dough will not rise a lot even though the starter is used at its peak. The very short answer is, your sourdough starter generally will be at its peak anything between 4 and 12 hours after feeding. Does all the extra oil I'm adding (which gets incorporated when I knead and knock back) lead to my dough losing strength & difficulty holding structure? Keeping the outside of the loaf softer for longer and allows the dough to puff up for higher during the initial part of the bake before the crust sets it’s shape. Here’s how I maintain my starter (well, starters, now that I’ve added a grape version to my stash; yes, at the time of publishing this post, I have two now): I keep a small jar of starter in the fridge and typically use it once or twice a week to bake. Dough rises faster in the warmth, and so bringing it away from a warm place will always mean the second proof will be slower because of the drop in temperature. No other “baker” does that whether in print or internet ” — Paul. A wetter dough will bring different characteristics to the bread. Does the steam affect the way the crust forms on the bread? Spread it out to dry. So don’t despair if you are starting with a small quantity. True, it does have max leavening (rising) power at this point. We could easily be talking about drastically different ingredients and recipes and that too would account for the differences we are experiencing. If there is inconsistency between the two rise times it sounds like you’ve changed the environment (taken the dough from a warm place to a cool place) OR started off with warm water in the beginning, so that as your dough cooled, the rise slowed. I only feed my starter when baking, so I don’t have to discard much or any at all. 15:00 Preheat oven . All these things will require trial and error on your part to get just how you like it, and if you're comfortable doing that then have a play! I believe so! 10:00 Bulk rise . Wow would you believe it?! Take a look at your recipe, and if it calls for 150g of starter, feed your starter with 75g of flour and 75g of water so that the total volume of added ingredients is 150g. advice?? As time passes and experiences grows, we each decide the best way to utilize sourdough. What container should I use to do my bulk fermentation in? The Fresh Loaf is not responsible for community member content. From my own work and in the course of teaching others, I found that the concern and difficulty was often the exact opposite of what you describe. I got this (again) in the face after moving here to Indonesia and blithely assuming my past experience would allow me to immediately begin baking great SD. Get the Bake with Jack Home Baker's Bulletin in your inbox every Thursday, packed with all my content from the week. Maybe the natural yeast here in Pasadena California is just to sweet. Bread Tip 43 - What is a Bakers Percentage? You can find lots of recipes online for using discarded starter. However, if you are preparing to bake with your starter, once it is active and bubbly for 3 consecutive feedings, you no longer need to discard any starter. So lively! TIP: The presence of a brown liquid layer atop your starter, called hooch, means your starter is starved. “ Well Jack, after 20 years or so baking you have inspired me to take home bread to a new level because you talk about all the things that go through my mind. Win! That, and the condensation on the outside of the bread, are what are needed for a crunchy crust! The optimum time to use it will be when there are lots of bubbles at its surface and it has has physically risen to its peak level, just before deflating back down again. The only real rule of thumb for feeding is to keep your starter addition at less than 50% of the total weight. Keep feeding it every day if you plan to regularly bake bread, but otherwise just keep it in the fridge with a loose-fitting lid. Then after enough practice you'll be able to handle a wet dough like a pro, or at least you’ll discover the level you are comfortable with. Christmas 2020. Discard all but 50g of your sourdough starter (this discarded starter can be kept in the fridge and added to pancake batters or used to make crumpets). What Feeding a Sourdough Starter without Having to Discard Looks Like for Me. I only feed my starter when baking, so I don’t have to discard much or any at all. Storage of a few weeks to a few months. One or two feedings is all it needs. When dealing with sourdough there are are great many factors and variables to consider. 08:00 Remove starter from the fridge. Even after 24 hrs it maintains its level. I feel like I should add a bit more flour so the dough is not quite as wet, so I can give it the tension it needs when I shape it, or do I need to get the moisture right from the start? Add flour to the starter with water every 8-12 hours employing one of the following methods: If the scale is your preferred instrument when measuring ingredients, blend equal amounts by weight of starter, water, and flour. 13:25 Final proof. or when it has peaked and ripe after a feed ? It makes for a moister bread and fermentation happens faster in a more liquid environment but... it's completely pointless if you are unable to handle the wet dough! The longer it’s unfed ( within the 7 days) the more sour it will be; Many people accidentally mismeasure the flour because they forget to “zero out” the weight of the bowl or measuring cup on the scale! Susan's "Norwhich" SD bread is a good one to start with. I left the baby starter out during five warm days, then put it in the fridge for five more. Should I use the starter just after feeding it ? To bake with starter, you’ll want it to be active. Things like honey, molasses, melted butter, oil, I consider to be “Extra” ingredients outside of the basic flour, water, salt, yeast formula. at the point it has risen as far as it will and is ready to collapse (this, assuming you are using a fairly loose/liquid starter - i.e. The bread recipe I follow uses the same quantities that you used but says knead on a slightly olive oiled board, it then says leave to rise in a lightly oiled bowl. This is when the starter will have its grreatest strength and potency. Saturday. - and... is one of the great things about the TFL site. 2)  So... why do you NOT have to use at the point its peaked? Quite anxious and want things to work. Why does home baked bread tend to dried out a lot quicker than store bought bread? Then add 125 g plain flour and 125 g water and stir well until evenly combined. I always use fresh yeast when possible, and although I used to have a few dry sachets in the cupboard for when I am in a proper pinch, I don’t any more. I always start everything at room temperature and rest it at room temperature for consistent rise. 1. In my experience, the biggest single issue new SD bakers face is understanding and managing fermentation. I find it’s also very floppy and difficult to shape. 5 Tips to Strengthen Your Sourdough Starter. starve the little yeast beasts by not feeding them for too long a period - typically DAYS, not HOURS! You answerd one of my question even without asking. Sourdough Starter for the Baking Skeptic. This does solve my primary question. This is a sign that your starter has fermented and is ready for a feed. However, I do get the point - of using the starter closer to its peaking time. I let the loafs ferment for 2 days. Mix for a minute or so to make sure everything is … Thank you Cerevisiae & AbeNW11 . You ONLY know how well it's done after your loaf cools. Leave the 3 oz starter at room temperature for 12-24 hours. Combine an "overripe" starter with refrigerator retardation and you can achieve truly sour SDs. Adding oil or butter will help, as will a combination of a little more water and a LONG resting time. Is this a concern ? Useful videos: Bread Tip 43 - What is a Bakers Percentage? I have found that if I’ve fed my starter and it’s only been in the fridge for a day or two I can go ahead and use it for a sourdough recipe without feeding first. I was wondering about keeping a portion of my dough for the next time I make bread. When your starter is bubbling andincreasing in volume its ready to bake bread with. I have been reading many of the blogs here since last few months and kind of preparing myself for the bake but its only when you actually start that basic questions as this pop up. With a few feeds, your starter will be back in action: bubbly, happy, and ready for your next baking adventure. Nov 19, 2020 Bread tip … To feed it, bring it to room temperature, add the flour and water and then leave it out for 30 minutes to one hour before placing it back in the fridge. I would very much appreciate some input to improve the taste. 15:00 Preheat oven . My dough is wet and sticky too, but because of the way I handle it lightly and nimbly, it minimises sticking to things which comes with practice. I take at least 7-8 hours to make and shape the bread. Feed the starter 8-10 hours before baking for less sour loaves. It takes me 4 days to bake this bread. I remember all the "problems" I had when I first started baking SD years ago - and again, more recently when I moved to Indonesia and was so far out of my comfort zone as EVERYTHING is so different here. Yes, it will still change the recipe but in a much more controllable way. The bottom will be full of bubbles and large uneven holes. Select Your Cookie Preferences We use cookies and similar tools to enhance your shopping experience, to provide our services, understand how customers use our services so we can make improvements, and display ads. Next time around, crank up the hydration a touch. I am looking around for an easy beginners loaf to start with. 09:30 Start the autolyse . A Sourdough Schedule . Like the flower pot for example. Check your weight (without seeds, salt or any additions) only flour. This is called feeding a starter to expand it for bread baking. This is the best technique I have found for keeping a healthy, active starter that is always ready to be used! Also, sounds like the lack of oven spring is BECAUSE you are letting it rise in the basket. First loaf - want it to be good :-) atleast edible. You bake once a week, but don’t want to feed it every day. Will update as I gather the courage to actually dive in and bake my first loaf. Whenever I used to be in that pinch and had to use dry yeast, my bread always tasted like it is lacking a little something, like it was not as great as it could have been! Up the water when you are ready and then you'll discover for yourself truly if “wetter is better”. Storing Sourdough Starter in the Freezer I'd love to hear how others manage feeding/baking schedules! Oh what a wet sticky mess! It will smell acidic, sometimes really … Then, instead of adding flour, remove some of the moisture from the recipe to make it the manageable dough that you are comfortable handling. the fermentation process (and thus leavening/rising) with"wild" yeasts occurs more slowly - primarily as a result of the lower yeast counts in homemade "wild yeast" starters vs. active/dry commercial yeasts you buy at the store. Where's the oil for the containter. 2. Played with my oven, flour types/brand, starters, mixing techniques and times, shaping techniques, etc. Simple, when you add the starter to your bread recipe you are mixing the starter with, uhh... yup... flour. But if you go over a week, you’ll need to feed your starter once or twice before using it again. Fresh yeast keeps well and is available from lots of places with a little investigation. I never add additional flour, and only dust where necessary during the shaping stage. Add equal amounts of flour and lukewarm water – around 200g is … It’s too wet and sticky! Then add some water for the next time, perhaps 20 grams or so to start with. Thus, it will start to "grow" again the minute you incorporate the starter into your bread mix (as long as you have not killed it by starvation/lack of food for too long!). Then, I’d expect there to be a slight change in the consistency when adding those things and, depending on the quantity added, adjust the hydration rate if I think I need to. I refrigerated the flour and it's still cold...  better let it come to room temperature first;  where did I put that damn roll of parchment paper [smile]. You now have 9 oz of starter. If you're using a stiffer starter then it will act a bit differently (stiff starters have "peaked" - aka are "ripe" - just at the point they have reached their maximum increase in volume and may not actually collapse the way looser/wetter starters do). Feed the starter with flour and water every 8-12 hours using one of the following methods: If using a scale to measure ingredients, combine equal amounts by weight of starter, water, and flour. Can you explain why you recommend keeping exactly “1 tablespoon of starter and then discarding the rest” plus 50g flour:50g for feeding is significant? is by using yeast that does not have as much leavening power and thus will take longer to get the job done. Contribute. For instance, 50 grams of starter, 50 grams of water, 50 grams of flour. Once the sugar and starches from the feeding have been consumed, the starter will then start to deflate again. It is important to continue feeding the starter at room temperature until it is reliably bubbly a few hours after feeding, for 3 consecutive feedings. (Simply could not comprehend then that a 35 (+) minute bulk and/or 2nd ferment could overproof a recipe that called for 2 to 2 1/2 hours each - i.e. Donations . Once the starter is in the refrigerator, you will need to get it out of hibernation and prepare the sourdough starter for baking.To prepare the sourdough starter for baking, take the starter out of the fridge and feed it 8-12 hours before you plan to start making the dough. Sign Up. Within that recommendation, there are countless variables. One or two feedings is all it needs. You get busy unexpectedly and need to stop feeding it daily. It's fun, and I like the bread. FYI if you want sweeter breads, use your starter BEFORE it has peaked; if you want more sour bread, use it after it has peaked. Puffy, a good shape, and above all Practical. Shop recommended products from Bake with Jack on Amazon.co.uk. I will try posting the photos for a better understanding. If my starter doesn't fall even after 24 hrs and nor does it develop any hooch as I have been reading about it - it just forms a thick layer on the top - should this be a concern ? Just a quick question, can you use Honey in baking bread? When dealing with a new baker (new to sourdough) and sourdough, the greatest potential for failure lies with the leavening power of the starter. Seal the jar and store at room temperature or in the fridge. HappyBaking :-). When To Use Starter (and when its "ready"), http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/27567/kuta-sourdough-whole-wheat-tweak-susans-norwich-sd, When to use the starter and when it is ready. is one of the best ways to achieve sourness - for two reasons:  A)  the starter itself gets more acid and thus more sour the longer you wait (within reason) after it has peaked, and; B) the dough takes longer to ferment as a result of using the less active starter. Useful videos: Bread Tip 43 - What is a Bakers Percentage? Use that fed starter to bake a sourdough recipe within the next day. Storing Sourdough Starter in the Freezer Is that where I am going wrong? 13:25 Final proof. Firstly, it’s probably about tactical apraying and dusting and folding in the stickiness at every stage. All original site content copyright 2021 The Fresh Loaf unless stated otherwise. or when it has peaked and ripe after a feed ? You all MUST know by now that when I make bread at home it has to be three things. I use steam at the beginning of baking because I am trying to stop a dry crust forming in those beginning stages. For example, if you want to bake bread on Tuesday morning, give the starter the first feeding … Find a clean jar (or a plastic container would work if you don’t have one) and leave plenty of space for your starter to grow. or just before when it requires a feed ? & Bread Tip 89 - DO NOT "Knead on a Floured Surface!". https://www.theboywhobakes.co.uk/.../5/30/how-to-make-a-sourdough-starter Thank you in advance! Ready your sourdough starter for storage. After feeding, the bubbles within the starter will raise the level of the starter, and as the number of bubbles increase, so will the level of the starter in the jar. Useful article: Same bread, different finish. Nice. Add the water flour and salt and mix it together into a dough with your dough scraper. Meanwhile can anyone please tell me how/when should i use the starter ?Should I use the starter just after feeding it ? You can puff the dough NOT to the max, slash and bake, allowing the final puff to happpen in the oven so that the crust busts open beautifully. So, I baked my first loaf yesterday, after starting it the night before. If your dough is collapsing, then you are probably sashing too late on in the proof stage when it’s too fragile. The instructions for activating your sourdough starter and maintenance feedings, call for discarding all but ½ cup starter before each feeding. Jeff's advice is generally correct, but you can make a less sour bread by using a "young" starter and a more sour bread by using more "mature" starter - when it is beginning to collapse. This comes with experience but as a new baker, the focus and concern will be getting the dough to rise and produce a good finished loaf. Thank you for this pointers. Ideally you want it to do this for a few days to be certain that it is truly strong enough. For those who might continue baking with sourdough, a complete comprehension of the entire sourdough/fermentation process is the next logical step. eating) flour and the byproducts of flour yeilded by the yeasts "digestion" of the flour, and the yeast is giving off CO2 gas which is the actual leavener of your bread. 20:00 Feed starter . Not because it is bad, but because it is less active. I am looking around for an easy beginners loaf to start with. I do not like much of the sour tang and do not want my breads to be on the sour side. I think the best way to learn will be to bake more n more often and learning in the process. What Feeding a Sourdough Starter without Having to Discard Looks Like for Me. Thank you Jeff ! Keeping back a portion of your dough for the next batch is an easy way to improve your bread's flavour and texture the next time around with almost zero effort. My starter tends to start rising in about 2 hrs after its feed and doubles in around 8-12 hours and then rises to a more 1/3rd in another 2 hours and then steadies itself. Not sour enough: Use un-fed starter. Oh God.. Once it is doubling in that 4-6 hour mark after feeding, you can move into maintenance and start baking with it. For a flour pot I'd probably go with 85-100g of dough, the same amount I would for a medium sized roll. I was doing some online shopping and couldn't tell whether I needed the 500g or 1kg oval? 2. I even up the water from my own recipe and have started to play with really soaking it beetween folds. May be a silly question, but I am interested in making a different loaf than a normal tin, or plain loaf. I watched your sourdough 101 video and learned so much. To check, I wish to bake the first loaf. Can you explain why you recommend keeping exactly “1 tablespoon of starter and then discarding the rest” plus 50g flour:50g for feeding is significant? Without the real experience, much of the science simply does not make sense....of course there are exceptions to this as we all learn a bit differently. I hope you find this page helpful and here’s a tip for you: If you are looking for something in particular and your on a computer, press Ctrl+F together on your keyboard to search for a key word. With a few feeds, your starter will be back in action: bubbly, happy, and ready for your next baking adventure. DMS is right... you actually do NOT need to use your starter just as its "peaked" - i.e. Perhaps a metaphor for ourselves in times of crisis, starters are how bread was born some 10,000 years ago. If not, give another feed and wait until tomorrow. 09:20 Prepare the ingredients. So delicious. Save this story for later. If you are struggling with a wet dough here's what I would do... First do some bread maths to work out the hydration rate of your recipe. I am looking around for an easy beginners loaf to start with. the suggested times for each - in a variety of different SD recipes. My new starter of 15 days seems to be ready. Excess sourdough starter can be used to make more … When getting set to bake, make use of the current starter within 3-4 hours of feeding, to make sure the starter is high on action. If you are still struggling take the moisture in the recipe down to a more manageable level for you, and work your way up when you feel comfortable. I feel like the answer could be a few of things. 22:00 Place starter in the fridge. Useful Video: Bread Tip 72 - The Room Temperature Water Rule, and The EXCEPTION, Be the first to know about new courses, workshop dates and special offers in the monthly Bake with Jack Newsletter and get all my content from the week for FREE in your weekly Home Baker’s Bulletin, Bread Tip 101 - Beginners Sourdough Loaf, Start to Finish. Feed the starter as described in steps 1 & 2 (see note). 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